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this right here, it's a story of some government and politics and small town life. mr. fricke, the leading write-in vote getter told "the new york times" that politics has lost his luster, even in small towns. oh, gee, i wonder why. thank you, washington. but it's also a story, an interesting story about unemployment. you have a job available, one that only pays a hundred bucks a month, and nobody wants it. and that in this economy is very, very rare. a job nobody will take. for most available jobs, there are lines out the door of qualified applicants. and that is the most important fact about not just the economy, but about what is happening in washington right now, as we speak. the biggest deal, the biggest problem with a deal that has not been struck in congress is coming up next. hey sis, it's so great to see you. you, too! oh, cloudy glasses. you didn't have to come over! actually, honey, i think i did... oh? you did? whoa, ladies, easy. hi. cascade kitchen counselor. we can help avoid this with cascade complete pacs. see, over time, cascade complete pacs fight fil
this right here, it's a story of some government and politics and small town life. mr. fricke, the leading write-in vote getter told "the new york times" that politics has lost his luster, even in small towns. oh, gee, i wonder why. thank you, washington. but it's also a story, an interesting story about unemployment. you have a job available, one that only pays a hundred bucks a month, and nobody wants it. and that in this economy is very, very rare. a job nobody will take. for most...
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the russian government says they are willing to accept a trational government. it is up to the syrian people to decide. it is not up to the u.s. or united nations to decide. they emphasize it must be the syrian people. many ininterpret that that they don't have to stay with the president. they see that as an opening that they would have to have a process that would call for his removal. that is what we heard from the on voy. so long as it is decided on by the people. >> thank you very much for joining us. one of the most beautiful words in the epg lash language graphs coming up. my wife takes centrum silver. i've been on the fence about it. then i read an article about a study that looked at the long term health benefits of taking multivitamins. they used centrum silver for the study... so i guess my wife was right. [ male announcer ] centrum. always your most complete. i have a cold, and i took nyquil, but i'm still "stubbed" up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] it doesn't have a decongestant. no way. [ mal
the russian government says they are willing to accept a trational government. it is up to the syrian people to decide. it is not up to the u.s. or united nations to decide. they emphasize it must be the syrian people. many ininterpret that that they don't have to stay with the president. they see that as an opening that they would have to have a process that would call for his removal. that is what we heard from the on voy. so long as it is decided on by the people. >> thank you very...
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the russian government says they are willing to accept a trational government. it is up to the syrian people to decide. it is not up to the u.s. or united nations to decide. they emphasize it must be the syrian people. many ininterpret that that they don't have to stay with the president. they see that as an opening that they would have to have a process that would call for his removal. that is what we heard from the on voy. so long as it is decided on by the people. >> thank you very much for joining us. one of the most beautiful words in the epg lash language graphs coming up. >>> when i'm not sitting in for rachel i'm at the washington post writing a blog. each year for the end of the year we ask our fellow travelers in the great wide world to send in their favorite graph. north dakota, senator kent conroy he sent a graph this year that was useful on capitol hill this year. it showed the last tax budget we had. five points higher than it was now. tax revenues right now. about the lowest we have seen. you need for laxes to balance the budget. you see the growi
the russian government says they are willing to accept a trational government. it is up to the syrian people to decide. it is not up to the u.s. or united nations to decide. they emphasize it must be the syrian people. many ininterpret that that they don't have to stay with the president. they see that as an opening that they would have to have a process that would call for his removal. that is what we heard from the on voy. so long as it is decided on by the people. >> thank you very...
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the russian government says they are willing to accept a transitional government. it is up to the syrian people to decide. it is not up to the u.s. or united nations to decide. they emphasize it must be the syrian people. many interpret that that they don't have to stay with the president. they see that as an opening that they would have to have a process that would call for his removal. that is what we heard from the envoy. so long as it is decided on by the people. >> thank you very much for joining us. one of the most beautiful words in the english language graphs coming up. [ laughter ] smoke? nah, i'm good. ♪ [ male announcer ] every time you say no to a cigarette, you celebrate a little win. nicoderm cq, the patch with time release smart control technology that acts fast and helps control cravings all day long. ♪ quit one day at a time with nicoderm cq. >>> when i'm not sitting in for rachel i'm at the washington post writing a blog. each year for the end of the year we ask our fellow travelers in the great wide world to send in their favorite graphs. nor
the russian government says they are willing to accept a transitional government. it is up to the syrian people to decide. it is not up to the u.s. or united nations to decide. they emphasize it must be the syrian people. many interpret that that they don't have to stay with the president. they see that as an opening that they would have to have a process that would call for his removal. that is what we heard from the envoy. so long as it is decided on by the people. >> thank you very...
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if you transfer $10,000 of your money, it triggers your bank that goes to the federal government. but you can go online and with free holiday shipping purchase a high capacity magazine. even the law enforcement in the communities have no way of know ing a large number of weapons, perhaps a bullet proof vest. that might send off a few alarms. making it harder to sexercise te right to vote. we should think that people are more responsible owning a gun than casting a ballot. that is part of what is being revealed. >> i want to go to one other finding in this study about this. it is about the notion of people need guns for protection. >> there is no evidence that a gun in the home reduces the likelihood of severe iity durin break in. it is actually going to be usable in a way that will protect you. >> to the contrary. those same studies have shown, they are are more likely to go through if there is a gun in the house. what is more likely to happen is you are going to get shot. what happened is, they didn't kill the shooter. the shooter killed themselves. they were in able to get to it
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, that we actually pay our bills as a government, that we find a balanced approach going forward. john boehner knows the votes from some of the republicans and some of the democrats can happen. and he's been unwilling to do that. >> do you think it's good -- >> it's hurting this country. >> is it good at this point in the process for harry reid to go on the senator floor and bash speaker boehner? does that not send a message this close to the deadline? >> he's trying to make it clear and i'm trying to make it clear that john boehner can't just say i'm not in there. of course, he is a player in this. if he does not work with the senate, work with the president and, again, the president has time and time again said we have some common ground here. if the republicans do agree, and they say they do, that they do not want to see tax rates go up on the american people, well, the president said let's make sure that we vote on that. 98% of americans can be protected from a tax increase. we can protect seniors under medicare by making sure that 30% cut to the providers don't go through. th
, that we actually pay our bills as a government, that we find a balanced approach going forward. john boehner knows the votes from some of the republicans and some of the democrats can happen. and he's been unwilling to do that. >> do you think it's good -- >> it's hurting this country. >> is it good at this point in the process for harry reid to go on the senator floor and bash speaker boehner? does that not send a message this close to the deadline? >> he's trying to...
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you saw his government and the federal government coming together to solve people's problems. >> they had the fleece on. the sleeves were rolled up. >> i have to tell you, i love politics. >> you do? >> i'm breaking this story here. certain things thought when people rise to the occasion, they did the right thing. and i love bill clinton coming to save his old rival. and he did. anyway, thank you, michael steele. up next, from etch-a-sketch to legitimate rape to 47%. the most notable political quotes of the year. which quote tops it? that's ahead. and this is "hardball" the place for politics. >>> we're wac. 2012 is coming to a close. let's look back at a few of the most memorable quotations. everything from the historic, to the infamous to the absurd. for the 7th year, fred shapiro has released his list of the top ten quotes. which ones will stand the test of time? you be the judge. joining me right now is a columnist for bloomburg review. gentlemen, get in your starting gates. here's the number one, actually, the number seven quote of the year, it happened in march while the republi
you saw his government and the federal government coming together to solve people's problems. >> they had the fleece on. the sleeves were rolled up. >> i have to tell you, i love politics. >> you do? >> i'm breaking this story here. certain things thought when people rise to the occasion, they did the right thing. and i love bill clinton coming to save his old rival. and he did. anyway, thank you, michael steele. up next, from etch-a-sketch to legitimate rape to 47%. the...
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you saw his government and the federal government coming together. >> they were wearing the fleece. >> exactly. you had the fleece on, the sleeves rolled up. >> you guys are the best. i have to tell you, i love politics. i'm breaking the story here. >> there's certain things when people rise to the occasion and do the right thing. anyway, thank you, michael. >>> up next, from etch-a-sketch to legitimate rate to 47%. the yumpbuniversity has the lis the most notable political quotes of the year. this is "hardball," the place for politics. [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >>> we're back. 2012 is coming to a close. but, before it does, let's look back at a few of the most memorable quotes. quotations that were uttered this year. everything from the historic to the infamous to, of c
you saw his government and the federal government coming together. >> they were wearing the fleece. >> exactly. you had the fleece on, the sleeves rolled up. >> you guys are the best. i have to tell you, i love politics. i'm breaking the story here. >> there's certain things when people rise to the occasion and do the right thing. anyway, thank you, michael. >>> up next, from etch-a-sketch to legitimate rate to 47%. the yumpbuniversity has the lis the most...
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some argue smaller government and government not intruding in the lives of americans as much. >> no question about it. we have heard it of republicans and conservatives saying the government doesn't need to be doing more but less because it's doing too much, spending too much so the less it does, the better they would say. >> all right. domenico montanaro, thank you. >>> the father of the connecticut shooter's father claimed his body. adam lanza's father claimed the remains last thursday and private arrangements were made over the weekend. you'll know lanza killed 20 first graders and 6 adults at sandy hook elementary school before committing suicide. >>> also, at least nine people killed and more than two dozen injured after a bus plumed down a ramp. it's known to be a dangerous area. >>> a new health complications of venezuelan president chavez. he is in cuba for cancer surgery three weeks ago. officials say chavez's condition is, quote, delicate and he might not be able to return to venezuela in time for his inauguration in january. >>> coming up, are you worried about what will happen if
some argue smaller government and government not intruding in the lives of americans as much. >> no question about it. we have heard it of republicans and conservatives saying the government doesn't need to be doing more but less because it's doing too much, spending too much so the less it does, the better they would say. >> all right. domenico montanaro, thank you. >>> the father of the connecticut shooter's father claimed his body. adam lanza's father claimed the remains...
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in that light please simply grow up, govern, but more importantly support middle class policies. >> all right. so both parties now telling us they want to fix this thing. they don't want to go, you know, head first over the fiscal cliff at midnight. how they're going to get there, though, still uncertain with mere hours to go. it's not just the i-reporters baffled and worried about the fiscal cliff. wall street is baffled and worried. let's get straight to alison kosik at the new york stock exchange. investors clearly on edge and stocks are lower and up and down, they aren't going to make any big moves on the last day of the year not knowing what's going to happen with the cliff. >> a wait and see mode, christine. the stocks are flat right now. the investors are waiting for lawmakers to make their move. what's interesting this session, stocks started off deeper in the red. they turned around. they're more flat now because the market really is trading on these headlines coming out of washington. right now those headlines seem more positive than negative. volatility could pick up toward t
in that light please simply grow up, govern, but more importantly support middle class policies. >> all right. so both parties now telling us they want to fix this thing. they don't want to go, you know, head first over the fiscal cliff at midnight. how they're going to get there, though, still uncertain with mere hours to go. it's not just the i-reporters baffled and worried about the fiscal cliff. wall street is baffled and worried. let's get straight to alison kosik at the new york...
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the real thing that i would challenge leadership in government and out of government is to look at people that are placing unemployment insurance that we almost lost, and still may if we can't get this vote. look at people that are dealing with the facts that they need what we're going to get out of this in terms of students and other things. and tell them, they don't matter. we're going over the cliff because we want to hold some inflexible position. and i think leadership will be tested here on really how far we want to bend or whether or not we want to break people that are the most vulnerable. and i think this is going to be a test. >> reverend al sharpton, thank you so much, and happy new year to you. >> happy new year. >>> we will be back in a moment with more on the apparent deal to avert the worst of the fiscal cliff. please stay with us. ♪ [ male announcer ] how could a luminous protein in jellyfish, impact life expectancy in the u.s., real estate in hong kong, and the optics industry in germany? at t. rowe price, we understand the connections of a complex, global economy. it's
the real thing that i would challenge leadership in government and out of government is to look at people that are placing unemployment insurance that we almost lost, and still may if we can't get this vote. look at people that are dealing with the facts that they need what we're going to get out of this in terms of students and other things. and tell them, they don't matter. we're going over the cliff because we want to hold some inflexible position. and i think leadership will be tested here...
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a crisis of self-government. we have had divided government that's worked beautifully before. we have got the marshall brandon, the highway system, civil rights bills in the 1960s, lbj as president, dirkson in the senate. we have done this before, all the accomplishments of the reagan era this disfunction is something new, the result of the polarization, party he is being more polarized than ever before, the increased power of the professional partisan activist class, actively arguing on other side to not make a deal saying a bad deal is worse than no deal, go over the cliff. these voices have real influence right now and you they are causing economic calamity to our country. they are making us look foolish. they are making us look unable to self-govern in a constructive way, let alone serve -- solve long-term problems, which is what we elect them for. people should be furious that we are here 36 hours with no deal on the fiscal cliff. >> i have no doubt they are. john avlon, thanks very much, as always, for the insight. thank you. >>> a fiscal fight. it is happening right now
a crisis of self-government. we have had divided government that's worked beautifully before. we have got the marshall brandon, the highway system, civil rights bills in the 1960s, lbj as president, dirkson in the senate. we have done this before, all the accomplishments of the reagan era this disfunction is something new, the result of the polarization, party he is being more polarized than ever before, the increased power of the professional partisan activist class, actively arguing on other...
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and the budget office will give it a score what it will cost the government to do this. at this very late hour, many people at work here at the capitol hill and going over that now. the vice president was able during his meeting with democrats to walk through the process, at how he and minority leader mitch mcconnell were able to reach this agreement and what benefit he sees for this. this is significant for the president's second term for achievement that will begin -- will mark the second term and for democrats to go along in support of the president, one of the political arguments that joe biden can make. in support of the president. what we know on the house side, both nancy pelosi, in charge of the democrats in the house and house speaker john boehner have been kept in the loop throughout. important because once the senate deals with this, it would go to the house. now, what we do expect in talking to a number of democrats tonight, some have put on coats and scarves and were going to lay down for a little while, waiting for the word to come back. others still think
and the budget office will give it a score what it will cost the government to do this. at this very late hour, many people at work here at the capitol hill and going over that now. the vice president was able during his meeting with democrats to walk through the process, at how he and minority leader mitch mcconnell were able to reach this agreement and what benefit he sees for this. this is significant for the president's second term for achievement that will begin -- will mark the second...
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people keep buying government bonds despite all our debt and the job market is improving. so i don't really see this continuing warfare in washington derailing that instantly. >> now, this for the moment kicks sequestration, federal spending cuts, down the road at the same time another fight over the debt ceiling looms. could the two issues scuttle any progress made on avoiding the cliff? >> i think the debt ceiling is really the move powerful and problematic. we saw this in august of 2011 when people start to raise questions about is the government actually going to pay its debt, can the government issue bonds, can it fund its operations, that's a pretty serious situation. if it gets to that point, we technically hit this debt ceiling, there are things the treasury secretary can do over the next couple months, avoiding putting payments into pension plans, things like that so we don't go over it. but at some point that has to be resolved and resolved in such a way that, you know, we are able to borrow, that people, bond investors will know they can buy these bonds and that
people keep buying government bonds despite all our debt and the job market is improving. so i don't really see this continuing warfare in washington derailing that instantly. >> now, this for the moment kicks sequestration, federal spending cuts, down the road at the same time another fight over the debt ceiling looms. could the two issues scuttle any progress made on avoiding the cliff? >> i think the debt ceiling is really the move powerful and problematic. we saw this in august...
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i think this is a terrible way to govern. i think it is an insult to every american. i think it's an absurdity. we're with family in wisconsin and florida, and every day, normal people think this is crazy. >> what would you do, mr mr. speaker, if the legislation came to the house of representatives tomorrow? >> i would have gone home. first of all, how is it going to come? what is it going to be? the senate is going to deem something has passed, to be written by the staff later? that's what they did with obama care. that's how the senate has done on a bipartisan basis, tax bills for i think the last 30 years. they deem this stuff -- they voted. they go home and say, look what we accomplished. nobody knows what's in the bill. none of the details are clear. there have been no hearings, no mark ups no amendments. this is as bad as the original obama passing a $780 billion stimulus that nobody had read. or nancy pelosi saying you have to pass the bill to know what's in it. i don't think any republican ought to be touching this stuff. >> mr. speaker, hold on for a second.
i think this is a terrible way to govern. i think it is an insult to every american. i think it's an absurdity. we're with family in wisconsin and florida, and every day, normal people think this is crazy. >> what would you do, mr mr. speaker, if the legislation came to the house of representatives tomorrow? >> i would have gone home. first of all, how is it going to come? what is it going to be? the senate is going to deem something has passed, to be written by the staff later?...
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but this is a terrible way to govern and a terrible way to run our government. any business likes to have some way of planning. so do government agencies. by having these deadlines makes it hard for people who are trying to make the government work. >> always great to talk to you, my friend. thank you. >> thank you. >>> much more ahead as the nation inches forwards the everyone of the fiscal cliff. and at the top of the hour, david gregory's interview made news from "meet the press." that's coming up, too. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerewind. if we took the already great sentra apart and com
but this is a terrible way to govern and a terrible way to run our government. any business likes to have some way of planning. so do government agencies. by having these deadlines makes it hard for people who are trying to make the government work. >> always great to talk to you, my friend. thank you. >> thank you. >>> much more ahead as the nation inches forwards the everyone of the fiscal cliff. and at the top of the hour, david gregory's interview made news from...
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. >> we have three different chambers -- three different areas of government. there's a lot that the executive branch can do. there's a lot of leadership that president obama can provide that he's not provided on this issue. and there's a lot of hearts and minds that have to change in congress. a lot of them republican, and also some democrats. i think it's up to us as citizens if we want to see changes happen, to take off the party label and demand it of our elected officials. a lot of times politicians act because the citizens are demanding it and crying out for it. that's what has to happen on this issue. we have to lead and they will follow. >> i always say our democratic issue -- and it is, it's going to take all of us to do it. and we have to take the politics out of it. elzi, i'll give you the last word. go ahead and go on as long as you want. sorry i cut you off. >> what she described is a microcosm of what's wrong in washington. our elected officials and the president are supposed to be defenders of the second amendment. there's defenders of the consti
. >> we have three different chambers -- three different areas of government. there's a lot that the executive branch can do. there's a lot of leadership that president obama can provide that he's not provided on this issue. and there's a lot of hearts and minds that have to change in congress. a lot of them republican, and also some democrats. i think it's up to us as citizens if we want to see changes happen, to take off the party label and demand it of our elected officials. a lot of...
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so austerity in terms of shrinking the size of government, or the growth of government, would be very, very healthy for the economy. austerity in europe is something elsewhere, because of the euro situation, you have to cut people's wages, to make those countries competitive again. that's a completely different issue. austerity in terms of reversing this tremendous increase we've had in government spending over the last four years, we've gone from 2.9 trillion to 3.8 trillion in spending, a 30 odd percent increase in four years. and there's no trend or motivation so far to reverse that or normalize that. so again, austerity for the public sector is stimulus for the private sector. >> all right. shawn tully, thank you very much. >> happy new year, don. >> you too as well. >> thank you, don. >>> a mom and her kids reunited after they had been missing for nearly a week, thanks to a cnn viewer. thanks to you. hear their story next. hes, fev. and i relieve nasal congestion. overachiever. [ female announcer ] tylenol® cold multi-symptom nighttime relieves nasal congestion. nyquil® cold an
so austerity in terms of shrinking the size of government, or the growth of government, would be very, very healthy for the economy. austerity in europe is something elsewhere, because of the euro situation, you have to cut people's wages, to make those countries competitive again. that's a completely different issue. austerity in terms of reversing this tremendous increase we've had in government spending over the last four years, we've gone from 2.9 trillion to 3.8 trillion in spending, a 30...
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it doesn't deal with funding the government. so it essentially -- and this is what a lot of republicans have told me. they're happy to go through this on the tax rates if they get anything above $250,000, they think that's a win because they believe they can have the same type of fights over spending, same type of fights as one told me a few days ago, bring the president to his knees in a few months. so this is not that big of a concession for them off the bat. it's extraordinary when you think about it in the context of ten years but in terms of moving forward, they really see it's helping their negotiating leverage which is a fascinating, fascinating development. >> to tell you about the patience of the american people, they did this survey about words and phrases they want to get rid of. number one, they're done with fiscal cliff. >> yeah. >> and also kicking the can down the road. but to your point, that is exactly what's going to happen, and whatever comes out of this deal and whenever the vote happens, this is really barel
it doesn't deal with funding the government. so it essentially -- and this is what a lot of republicans have told me. they're happy to go through this on the tax rates if they get anything above $250,000, they think that's a win because they believe they can have the same type of fights over spending, same type of fights as one told me a few days ago, bring the president to his knees in a few months. so this is not that big of a concession for them off the bat. it's extraordinary when you think...
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we can stop this if the republicans are serious about governing this country. >> all right. we're going to leave you with the last word, robert gibbs. thank you very much for being on the show. >> thank you. >> best of luck to you. >> thank you. >> chuck todd, thank you as well. >>> coming up, we'll talk to republican senator bob corker and republican congressman tom cole about the state of negotiations. >>> and up next, secretary hillary clinton has a serious health scare as she's hospitalized with a blood clot. we'll have a live report on her condition next. we'll be right back with much more "morning joe." i have lost 101 lbs on weight watchers online. i just got started and i'm like "hey, that first 20 came off, well it wasn't too hard at all." i love breads. you can still eat bread. i love my sweets. i can still have a cookie on weight watchers. i love the barcode scanner. occasionally, i'll use it at the bar. of course! that's what it's for, right? bar code. oh i think i'm never going there again. i feel healthy. and just...young again. [ female announcer ] weight watc
we can stop this if the republicans are serious about governing this country. >> all right. we're going to leave you with the last word, robert gibbs. thank you very much for being on the show. >> thank you. >> best of luck to you. >> thank you. >> chuck todd, thank you as well. >>> coming up, we'll talk to republican senator bob corker and republican congressman tom cole about the state of negotiations. >>> and up next, secretary hillary clinton...
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even before that, we had multiple threats of government shutdown over things like funding of planned parenthood and even if we get through this with a deal, we may have another debt ceiling showdown. are we at the point in history where we cannot get anything done and nothing will happen until we have one party in control again? >> well, no. i think we can get things done. although, this is coming from a person who's had to re'range vacation plans for three years because congress couldn't finish their work in until the last second. so, you know, when you hear mitch mcconnell on the senate floor saying we can do this, we have to do this, there's a sign saying, okay, when things are bad they can get together. i'm not quite sure why it has to be that bad, though, before they actually do something. i mean, almost everybody in this country could look at this and see it comes and say, okay, taxes are going up on january 1st. house, why can't you do something before they go up? when you know they go up. do something you like better but do something. that's a hard question to answer and real
even before that, we had multiple threats of government shutdown over things like funding of planned parenthood and even if we get through this with a deal, we may have another debt ceiling showdown. are we at the point in history where we cannot get anything done and nothing will happen until we have one party in control again? >> well, no. i think we can get things done. although, this is coming from a person who's had to re'range vacation plans for three years because congress couldn't...
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potentially the 12th hour at this point. >> government at its finest. i think that's in the government 101 class. wait until the last possible minute. thank you, kristen. as you can see, folks, if you are looking at the screen, these are, as john harris mentioned, earlier who is still with me, these are what we believe to be middle class americans that president obama will speak in front of. we are within literally minutes. we believe we have the two minute warning here on the president, so we expect him to be out soon. john, just quickly, because we are close here, kristen mentioned pr campaigns. the president, as you say, campaign style approach to this entire debate different many some ways than certainly economic stimulus, and a little bit different than health care. is this lessons learned from those two fights? >> i think it's partly that, and i think he has learned, look, he has public leverage, but he doesn't necessarily have private leverage. he doesn't have republican votes in the house. you use what weapons you have as a president, and the pu
potentially the 12th hour at this point. >> government at its finest. i think that's in the government 101 class. wait until the last possible minute. thank you, kristen. as you can see, folks, if you are looking at the screen, these are, as john harris mentioned, earlier who is still with me, these are what we believe to be middle class americans that president obama will speak in front of. we are within literally minutes. we believe we have the two minute warning here on the president,...
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say the tax rates go up, the government is not going to automatically withhold more money from the paycheck and the tax rates can be in effect for most of the year. we hope they're not but congress could rescind them toward the end of the year and one thing to affect you is the payroll tax cut, two percentage points and spoebed to be temporary anyway. >> rick, one of the suggestions that you have, turn off the tv until congress reaches a deal. the media will find little else to talk about. the endless chatter creates the mistaken impression that the country is going down the drain. >> turn off all the other channels is what i meant. >> you leave the impression we're fearmongering and not giving important information that we need to have and are you per pet yuting the problem? >> trying to be a voice of reason. so for a bit of perspective, going in to this, most people who watch congress who are paying attention for months did not expect any kind of deal to happen in december. remember, this is a lame duck session and people who have been watching this for a long time said probably the best
say the tax rates go up, the government is not going to automatically withhold more money from the paycheck and the tax rates can be in effect for most of the year. we hope they're not but congress could rescind them toward the end of the year and one thing to affect you is the payroll tax cut, two percentage points and spoebed to be temporary anyway. >> rick, one of the suggestions that you have, turn off the tv until congress reaches a deal. the media will find little else to talk...
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a lot of them want to govern. i think things can happen quickly in january. >> there is a lot of talk with the gop looking ahead to the debt limit when there will be anything substantial don entitlement reform and things of that nature. and how worries are you that we could see a repeat of the possible down great of the u.s. createit rating? >> i'm concerned about it. we reached the debt limit, but tricks we can play to keep the government operating. that looks like no more than 60 days. it's an arbitrary and useless statute. denmark i think is the only other country that has something like that. this would be gamesmanship of the most dangerous kind. i hope nobody is going to play that game. i know the president said he is not going to play that game. if the republicans think they use that as leverage, they do that at their own risk. >> congressman, good luck to the cardinals. take care. >> thank you, luke. >> we are keeping our eye on how the stalemate is playing on wall street and president george hw bush is now
a lot of them want to govern. i think things can happen quickly in january. >> there is a lot of talk with the gop looking ahead to the debt limit when there will be anything substantial don entitlement reform and things of that nature. and how worries are you that we could see a repeat of the possible down great of the u.s. createit rating? >> i'm concerned about it. we reached the debt limit, but tricks we can play to keep the government operating. that looks like no more than 60...
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>>> if you're worried we'll soon be governed by sharia law, have no fear. republicans are keeping us safe from something that was never going to happen anyway. that and other low lights there 2012 in the "sideshow." >>> and finally my hopes for the upcoming year, especially from the president. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> massachusetts congressman ed markey announced today his candidacy for the united states senate seat held by john kerry who president obama has nominated for secretary of state. markey is a friend and respected guest on "hardball" and has been in the house since 1976. he's the dean of the massachusetts delegation, and he has the best values of anybody i know in politics. if he gets the democratic nomination for the senate, he could wind up running against scott brown who won the seat in 2010, then lost it last month. the special election is likely to take place this june. we'll be right back. >>> welcome back to "hardball." when john boehner failed to bring his so-called plan "b" to a vote last week because he didn't have
>>> if you're worried we'll soon be governed by sharia law, have no fear. republicans are keeping us safe from something that was never going to happen anyway. that and other low lights there 2012 in the "sideshow." >>> and finally my hopes for the upcoming year, especially from the president. this is "hardball," the place for politics. >>> massachusetts congressman ed markey announced today his candidacy for the united states senate seat held by...
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you're talking about 8 days of funding for the united states government. >> right. >> medicare -- >> when spending comes in. >> we have a medicare program where people are paying one third of the cost and 20 million more americans will be on it the next ten years and we have yet to deal with that. >> one other thing that the president said during this interview. he was asked about chuck hagel used to be a republican senator, his name has surfaced as a possible secretary of defense. there have been complaints about him, about some votes he made, vis-a-vis iran and comments he made about gays and some other things he said about israel and here was the question from david gregory. . >> do you think disqualify him? >> not that i see. i've served with chuck hagel. i know him. he's a patriot. somebody who has done extraordinary work both in the united states senate, somebody who served this country with valor in vietnam. and is somebody who's currently serving on my advisory board and doing an outstanding job. >> do you have any problems with senator hagel? >> i thought susan rice was goin
you're talking about 8 days of funding for the united states government. >> right. >> medicare -- >> when spending comes in. >> we have a medicare program where people are paying one third of the cost and 20 million more americans will be on it the next ten years and we have yet to deal with that. >> one other thing that the president said during this interview. he was asked about chuck hagel used to be a republican senator, his name has surfaced as a possible...
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the delayed sequester combined with government funding completely runs out. well could have a budget government shutdown showdown in march, and the debt ceiling all expiring basically in the same three to four-week period. it's going to make what has happened in the last 48 seem small and petty. >> so given what you just said, this deal looming tonight, perhaps even voting in the senate tonight, who wins? who loses? who is somewhere in between? >> look, i don't think anybody is winning here. i think that the white house and senate republicans feel as if they've dodged a political bullet, that it's not a complete victory, although the white house certainly feels as if they have republicans helping them raise tax. if you had told them you were going to get that a year ago, two years ago, heck, 20 years ago, they would have said what are you smoking? the fact of the matter is the white house feels like they're winning. simply they've got republicans helping them raise taxes on the wealthiest say 1.4% when all is said and done. but senate republicans feel like th
the delayed sequester combined with government funding completely runs out. well could have a budget government shutdown showdown in march, and the debt ceiling all expiring basically in the same three to four-week period. it's going to make what has happened in the last 48 seem small and petty. >> so given what you just said, this deal looming tonight, perhaps even voting in the senate tonight, who wins? who loses? who is somewhere in between? >> look, i don't think anybody is...
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what can the government do, if anything? >> well, thank you, ed. and you've been quite a champion yourself. but the federal government needs to aggressively enforce the voting rights act, the civil rights act, and any other federal institutes that are on the book. for example, through help america vote act, there was a commission established called the elections assistance commission. that is supposed to be a bipartisan commission with four members. it doesn't have members because the republicans have been holding that up in congress. it is very important that those on the federal level enforce the laws that we have there. and that elections assistance commission would go a long way. would be a clearing house for some of the best practices in this nation to continue to drive the polls, that voting should be for everybody, not a select few. and we really need to make sure that the federal government uses the tools that have in their tool box and not idly sit by and let things happen in the state and across the country. >> in your state of ohio, repu
what can the government do, if anything? >> well, thank you, ed. and you've been quite a champion yourself. but the federal government needs to aggressively enforce the voting rights act, the civil rights act, and any other federal institutes that are on the book. for example, through help america vote act, there was a commission established called the elections assistance commission. that is supposed to be a bipartisan commission with four members. it doesn't have members because the...
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they say they are a governing party and they right now are causing the government to completely rewire the way that it deals with the deficit. and they say that there is pain in that process. but the long-term debate and the reason why they don't need to be inside the meeting room is they've got so many of the people in that room afraid of them that we are having a debate between how much to cut the deficit and not to do jobs or stimulus and the things paul reuben talks about. >> they've had an impact, but it's not a governing agenda in terms of accomplishments that would get to their goal of deficit reduction and long-term economic growth. >> on that point, why not? >> because they're standing in the way of allowing that to happen. they're saying you can't come to an accommodation on the issue of taxes. if you can't do that, there's no way you can -- >> well, i would disagree with you and disagree with ben a little bit. what they've proved in the fist year is if you do hold certain things hostage, you can get results. and we already have $1 trillion worth of debt reduction because of
they say they are a governing party and they right now are causing the government to completely rewire the way that it deals with the deficit. and they say that there is pain in that process. but the long-term debate and the reason why they don't need to be inside the meeting room is they've got so many of the people in that room afraid of them that we are having a debate between how much to cut the deficit and not to do jobs or stimulus and the things paul reuben talks about. >> they've...
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it gives the government more money and will put off the actual kind of "d" day for the u.s. defaulting on its debt, only by a week or so. but, again, the real thing that should be scaring everybody is the thing that's coming in a couple of months. >> you know, we heard the president talking today about how mind boggling this is. you know, that normal people don't resolve their differences this way. i don't know how you can shuffle around money. that really is mind boggling. thank you. up next, the nra's response to gun violence? what else, more guns. the new battle over gun violence with chris matthews. you're watching "hardball" the place for politics. >> welcome back to hardball. the tragic school shooting has put renewed focus not just on the guns, but on school safety itself. >> i call on congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation. and to do it now. >> but here's what it looks like when you run the numbers. slate magazine took a look at what a program to put armed guards in eve
it gives the government more money and will put off the actual kind of "d" day for the u.s. defaulting on its debt, only by a week or so. but, again, the real thing that should be scaring everybody is the thing that's coming in a couple of months. >> you know, we heard the president talking today about how mind boggling this is. you know, that normal people don't resolve their differences this way. i don't know how you can shuffle around money. that really is mind boggling....
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people who believe in government will remember. the people who believe in national defense and social security and medicare will remember. they will know which party is trying to destroy working democracy in order to pursue its political ends. they will know who listens to the voter, who respects the voter, and who thumbs his nose at the voter and that ladies and gentlemen of the tea party right is you. we go over this cliff and you will not have to ask for whom the bell tolls, it willing tolling for you. leading off tonight josh green and chris frats of national journal. you don't have to be as clear as i, but try, gentlemen, tonight. it looks to me like one party, guns again it's asymmetric. both parties are not screwing around, one is. is that true? >> i think both parties want to go over the cliff. >> both want to go over the cliff? who will get blamed. >> i think republicans will get blamed but i think republicans at this point fear casting a career-threatening vote to raise taxes instead of waiting four days and letting the c
people who believe in government will remember. the people who believe in national defense and social security and medicare will remember. they will know which party is trying to destroy working democracy in order to pursue its political ends. they will know who listens to the voter, who respects the voter, and who thumbs his nose at the voter and that ladies and gentlemen of the tea party right is you. we go over this cliff and you will not have to ask for whom the bell tolls, it willing...
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thank you. >> i'm worth $3.5 million that the government knows about. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerewind. if by blessed you mean freaked out about money well we suddenly noticed that everything was getting more expensive so we switched to the bargain detergent but i found myself using three times more than you're supposed to and the clothes still weren't as clean as with tide. so we're back to tide. they're cuter in clean clothes. thanks honey yeah you suck at folding [ laughs ] [ female announcer ] one cap of tide gives you more cleaning power than 6 caps of the bargain brand. [ woman ] that's my tide, what's yours? >>> the meeting between the president an
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it's eight or ten days of government spending. and what we've really got to do, you just can't budget. if the president gets all the revenue he asks for, he simply can't deal with the problem without putting forward real spending cuts and real entitlement reform. >> i don't think the president's going to get all the revenue he's asked for, but i'll tell you this, i know this is sort of how washington works, you know how washington works, things get put off, except we've been downgraded. we've just been through a terrible recession and we're on the cliff of another one if we push this. this was supposed to happen now for a reason. >> well, it should happen. look, the house acted on this in may and they've had legislation sitting in the senate. all the senate had to do -- it didn't have to pass what the house passed, it just needed to pick the bill up, do what senator coburn suggested earlier, have an open process, amend it and send it back. again, we don't control the senate. that's harry reid. but if you wait until the last minute
it's eight or ten days of government spending. and what we've really got to do, you just can't budget. if the president gets all the revenue he asks for, he simply can't deal with the problem without putting forward real spending cuts and real entitlement reform. >> i don't think the president's going to get all the revenue he's asked for, but i'll tell you this, i know this is sort of how washington works, you know how washington works, things get put off, except we've been downgraded....
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we can come back and fight the president over continuing funding for the government. we can come back and fight the president over any delayed cuts to the sequester that are temporary from this. republicans see that anything above 250,000 they get is essentially a victory for them, and they're more than happy to have these same type of cliff fights in 60 to 90 days. >> right. >> coming back for it. >> right. >> to the point that you just made, luke, is there a feeling -- because you do see a lot of irritation on the face of harry reid, and he is not a guy who shows a lot of emotion, but you do see some irritation there. is part of this by harry reid as well as liberal democrats that the white house essentially went around reid and got biden in there to make what they feel is a bad deal? >> well, i think there's probably -- i don't know if that's being for harry reid so much. i definitely know that is the opinion of some liberals in the house, but i've spoke to a member today who is pretty middle of the road centrist democrat, and he told me that he did not like the fa
we can come back and fight the president over continuing funding for the government. we can come back and fight the president over any delayed cuts to the sequester that are temporary from this. republicans see that anything above 250,000 they get is essentially a victory for them, and they're more than happy to have these same type of cliff fights in 60 to 90 days. >> right. >> coming back for it. >> right. >> to the point that you just made, luke, is there a feeling --...
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the russian government has to invite them to meet a child to adopt and they're worried. >> now with this new development, it could all come to a screeching halt. >> just from father to father, president putin, i just ask that as a father, just to consider what's happening to the families that are in process. let us at least go through the process and bring home our children. >> that was michelle reporting there. >>> another person pushed in front of a new york city subway tops the look at stories around the "news nation" today. there's video of a woman they say pushed the man in front of a train last night. there she is right there. the victim was killed. witnesses telling police that the woman had been following the man and mumbling under her breath moments before. earlier this month, police say a man was pushed and killed in front of another new york train. a 30-year-old man is charged with murder that case. three police officers of new jersey are in the hospital recovering today after being shot inside a police station this morning. police say the suspect was being processed for domes
the russian government has to invite them to meet a child to adopt and they're worried. >> now with this new development, it could all come to a screeching halt. >> just from father to father, president putin, i just ask that as a father, just to consider what's happening to the families that are in process. let us at least go through the process and bring home our children. >> that was michelle reporting there. >>> another person pushed in front of a new york city...
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. >> well, the american people in their wisdom sent a divided government to washington. off group of people in the house of representatives that basically slapped around their own leader and said we won't even consider a tax increase for millionaires, multimillionaires, billionaires. meanwhile, you have got the majority of the senators elected in this body saying we can do more at the top end. those of us who have a lot can get more revenue to address this crisis so you have got this stalemate that was created by two very different groups of people, all elected by the american people. >> now, walking out, i spoke to several of your colleagues, democratic senators who said they were not optimistic, really looking pretty glum. what camp are you in after what you just heard? do you think -- i mean, as you said, the clock is ticking, do you think by tonight or tomorrow, something will get passed to deal with at least the tax cuts that are going up by most americans? >> most successful businessmen and successful people i have talked to are willing to pay more and so it remain
. >> well, the american people in their wisdom sent a divided government to washington. off group of people in the house of representatives that basically slapped around their own leader and said we won't even consider a tax increase for millionaires, multimillionaires, billionaires. meanwhile, you have got the majority of the senators elected in this body saying we can do more at the top end. those of us who have a lot can get more revenue to address this crisis so you have got this...
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is not going to repay its debt obligations and the full faith and credit of the united states government, we're not going to give that up. >> a very valid point. you believe we need to get spending under control. we don't knees to raise taxes but you don't want to do it on the back of fearmongering that is responsible and i appreciate that. and steven, i love you, too, and i really do hope that you and i do not ring in the new year together. >> me, too, but have a happy one anyway. >> thank you, sir. don, you and i might. >> what is wrong -- ali, you're a cool guy. why wouldn't steven want to spend new year's with you? >> i agree. the three of us might be spending new year's together so let's not speak too soon. >> steven, i have seen you everywhere. you were on two networks at once and then you're on the third network after you were off the other one. >> you know, i was supposed to be skiing today. i actually skied this morning and rushed back, but i know one casualty of the fiscal cliff and that's me. >> there you go. >> thank you, thank you. so the senate won't vote tonight. house spe
is not going to repay its debt obligations and the full faith and credit of the united states government, we're not going to give that up. >> a very valid point. you believe we need to get spending under control. we don't knees to raise taxes but you don't want to do it on the back of fearmongering that is responsible and i appreciate that. and steven, i love you, too, and i really do hope that you and i do not ring in the new year together. >> me, too, but have a happy one anyway....
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and who's actually governing us. >> l.z. granderson and anna navarro, thank you. >>> their job was to make people laugh, but not these days. how a connecticut morning radio show has become a way for listeners to heal. powerful words coming up. >>> connecticut's number one fm radio show usually sounds like a fraternity show. after the sandy hook shooting, the two radio hosts got serious and started taking calls from people trying to deal with the tragedy. >> we like to call it a town hall meeting held in a frat house. friday was strange. we went from in the morning doing one of the most happy, upbeat, fun shows of the year. >> next year's going to be even better. >> to in the afternoon doing the saddest show of our careers. >> he was one of the first responders to the scene. how are you? >> i'm doing okay. >> never in your life could you imagine you'd pull up to a scene so horrific? >> absolutely not. there's certain things that people just shouldn't see. >> every moment it was getting worse and worse, we couldn't help but fe
and who's actually governing us. >> l.z. granderson and anna navarro, thank you. >>> their job was to make people laugh, but not these days. how a connecticut morning radio show has become a way for listeners to heal. powerful words coming up. >>> connecticut's number one fm radio show usually sounds like a fraternity show. after the sandy hook shooting, the two radio hosts got serious and started taking calls from people trying to deal with the tragedy. >> we like...
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deal with the things that were doable, and you know, that's always i think the sign of intelligent government, if not necessarily, again, the most desirable process. >> let me play what iowa senator tom harkin had to say about this, one of the people who had some concerns. he voted no. >> mm-hmm. >> now, i'm not saying that everything in this deal is bad. there are some good parts of this, but i repeat, i am concerned about this constant drift, bit by bit, deal by deal, toward more deficits, less job-creation, more unfairness, less economic justice, a society where the gap grows wider between the few who have much and the many who have too little. >> tom harkin is among those who have said repeatedly that this deal does not address the needs of the real middle class, people making $40,000, $50,000, $60,000 a year. does he have a point? >> well, he has part of a point, but on the other hand, this package, as i understand it, extended the eitc for five years and the affordable -- >> earned income tax credit for people who don't know the shorthand. >> right, for the low-income working families.
deal with the things that were doable, and you know, that's always i think the sign of intelligent government, if not necessarily, again, the most desirable process. >> let me play what iowa senator tom harkin had to say about this, one of the people who had some concerns. he voted no. >> mm-hmm. >> now, i'm not saying that everything in this deal is bad. there are some good parts of this, but i repeat, i am concerned about this constant drift, bit by bit, deal by deal, toward...
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all right. 47% who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has the responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it. so my job is not to worry about those people. they should take responsibility and care for their lives. >> a very valuable contribution to the campaign. >> i'm going go with bill clinton. >> for one speech at a convention? >> it was more than one speech. it was 20 years in the making the story of that speech was for the first 15 years they treated bill clinton like he was the worst thing that ever happened in american politics, villain in chief and even after he left the white house he was afraid of the clinton restoration and 2008 when obama had the clintons when the republicans decided, wait a minute, no, bill clin clin to is this bygone symbol in america of cooperation and good government and moderation and sang his praises for four years. set him up as the good democrat against obama's bad democrat. what happened, the good dem
all right. 47% who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has the responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it. so my job is not to worry about those people. they should take responsibility and care for their lives. >> a very valuable contribution to the campaign. >> i'm going go with bill clinton. >> for one speech at a convention?...
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they think shrinking the government, making the government do less are actually good things. >> right, i don't think there's any question about that. we know there's an element of the republican party, ron paul, rand paul being the most visible, who think the less government does, the better. now, in that vain, i've been struck. david wasserman at the "cook political report" crunched the numbers on this, that there are 234 house republicans. 15 of them, 15 represent districts that president obama carried in 2012. given that, and we were talking with kelly about the fact that this has to come through the house at some point, that republicans still control. is there any reason for, politically speaking -- >> absolutely, right. >> -- not good of the country speaking, but politically speaking, is there any reason for these guys to make a deal given that for 215 of them, the constituency they represent are mitt romney's? >> i think this is the problem. where most people follow a presidential election and don't realize what happens in each of the districts. what republicans have done a very
they think shrinking the government, making the government do less are actually good things. >> right, i don't think there's any question about that. we know there's an element of the republican party, ron paul, rand paul being the most visible, who think the less government does, the better. now, in that vain, i've been struck. david wasserman at the "cook political report" crunched the numbers on this, that there are 234 house republicans. 15 of them, 15 represent districts...
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we hate government, we don't want government. and we were elected on a very ideological platform of shrinking the federal government. of kind of an anti-government obsession, of the sort that we haven't seen in this country in decades. >> all right. well, we're looking for the isaac newton to free us from that gravitational pull of these republican ideologues. robert reich, thank you so very much. and our sincere apologies to amanda turco of "the huffington post," who was unable to join us due to technical difficulties beyond our control. >>> up next, america's murder capital. what makes this city so much more violent than los angeles and new york? we'll talk about the guns and the attitudes. >>> and the country re-elected its first african-american president. yet that hasn't stopped some from engaging in hate speech and racist stunts. we'll talk about this mannequin and much more. >>> please, stop the killering. >> guys see what happened? huh? you didn't see what happened? >> he don't do nothing wrong. >> i can't take this! he d
we hate government, we don't want government. and we were elected on a very ideological platform of shrinking the federal government. of kind of an anti-government obsession, of the sort that we haven't seen in this country in decades. >> all right. well, we're looking for the isaac newton to free us from that gravitational pull of these republican ideologues. robert reich, thank you so very much. and our sincere apologies to amanda turco of "the huffington post," who was unable...
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it gives the government more money and will put off the actual kind of "d" day for the u.s. defaulting on its debt, only by a week or so. but, again, the real thing that should be scaring everybody is the thing that's coming in a couple of months. >> you know, we heard the president talking today about how mind boggling this is. you know, that normal people don't resolve their differences this way. i don't know how you can shuffle around money. that really is mind boggling. thank you. up next, the nra's response to gun violence? what else, more guns. the new battle over gun violence with chris matthews. you're watching "hardball" the place for politics. [ mother ] you can't leave the table till you finish your vegetables. [ clock ticking ] [ male announcer ] there's a better way... v8 v-fusion. vegetable nutrition they need, fruit taste they love. could've had a v8. or...try kids boxes! i just finished a bowl of your new light chicken pot pie soup and it's so rich and creamy... is it really 100 calories? let me put you on webcan... ...lean roasted chicken... and a creamy bro
it gives the government more money and will put off the actual kind of "d" day for the u.s. defaulting on its debt, only by a week or so. but, again, the real thing that should be scaring everybody is the thing that's coming in a couple of months. >> you know, we heard the president talking today about how mind boggling this is. you know, that normal people don't resolve their differences this way. i don't know how you can shuffle around money. that really is mind boggling....